consideration considering

LOL, considering that I have considered to back up, now, HOW to DO back up? I can't find the magic button. do't forget I am an "amateur" By the way, HP learning center is great but refuses to register me.Have sent them an email. Would that give me any certification? I am also looking at a 2 years part time course with Oxford University on Computing and internet. Still haven't met you it all looks very quite. I hop[e I could start something seriously in mid-August. Take care ...of you then the net.

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Amateur?

You have far too much computer resource to be called amateur. Perhaps experimenter could closer describe you.

Henceforth decreed: clarinette is qualified as an apprentice geek.

To start your backup on a Windows XP system:

  • click Start -> Run
  • type ntbackup.exe
  • Click OK

If you get the Windows cannot find ntbackup.exe … error message, then you need to install the backup utility from your Windows installation cd. You'll need to insert the Windows installation CD and install per the excellent details at Microsoft. If you are unlucky enough to not have your Windows installation CD or your installation CD does not include the \VALUEADD\MSFT\NTBACKUP directory, you need not despair; you can download and execute the ntbackup.msi file from Internet sources.

NTBACKUP.EXE will launch the backup wizard and you'll know what to do from there.

time consuming technology

Sorry my dear Deep but tried the back up. Of course windows could not find ntbackup.exe. don't have windows installation CD, do you have any adress of internet resource for me ? In the meantime I have all sorts of trouble with my internet connection since I switched to BT as ISP. Tiscali was encountering problems and loosing Emails. I am becoming "chèvre". I found 2 other users with very similar problem as me with the Packard Bell PC. I fell less lonely but that is not enough but maybe YOU will be able to find what's wrong with our unobedient machines .

Here are the threads :

11-Jun-2007 09:24 AM - Restarting in an endless loop

SimianRaticus
Junior Member

The thread title should be descriptive enough, but if not, basically what happens is the computer will load up to the desktop, but then restart again and it continues like that in a constant loop until I turn off the PC. Anyway, is there anything I can do to fix things? The only thing I can think of is to reformat and reinstall Windows, but I don't have a Windows install disc and I'm not sure exactly how to reformat in the first place. If this is the only option though, I guess I can purchase a new copy of Windows, but I'd prefer not to until I've exhausted ever other option. Oh, and I'm running Windows XP, by the way. Not sure if it's relevant or not, but I figured I should mention it anyway.

#2

11-Jun-2007 09:28 AM
Blackmirror
Distinguished Member

Hello does it start up in safe mode tap F8 a few times when you restart until you get the safe mode screen then control panel system advanced start up and recovery and uncheck automaically restart system failure this should give you a blue screen boot up normally and copy the details and post here please _________________

#3

17 Minutes Ago
clavinova

I have the same problem as another thread just posted. I tried your suggestion, turned on F8, but came onto "SELECT BOOT DRIVE' with 3 options : - SM-_NCC DVD_RW nd_3530a - pm_st 3160021A - realtek boot agent It's Packard Bell PC 1 year and 1/2 old that has had troubles and been repaired by PC World. Not sure but think they have replaced Hard Disk. I have posted about this PC few months ago and had Hi-jack results also posted when still working but with interruption. Now, it only makes loops, starting, going on mode safe, turning off, starting, mode safe etc........

#4

3 Minutes Ago
devil_himself
Experience: Advanced

First try what Blackmirror suggested After taht if u can get to the command prompt Type the following ,and then press ENTER: %systemroot%\system32\restore\rstrui.exe It will bring up system restore and try restoring back to a time before the problem.

AND second user :

#1

11-Jun-2007 10:20 AM - Help Needed Please !!!
hkhksh

HI ive been passed onto here by cybertech http://forums.techguy.org/security/5...help-us-4.html if you look at the last few messages you can see that i have a porblem starting up my computer ( im now on a friends laptop ) can anybody on here please please help me

#2 11-Jun-2007 10:36 AM

devil_himself
Experience: Advanced

boot into safe mode with command support n and then do hdd check. chkdsk /r /f to fix errors

devil_himself

#3

11-Jun-2007 10:40 AM
Experience: Advanced

Also try to examin the Boot.ini The problem may be that iT is not referring to the correct location of the windows installation. Boot to a command prompt and type the following Copy boot.ini boot.bak - to make a backup (if you get in trouble type "copy boot.bak boot.ini" to restore) attrib -h -r -s boot.ini to make the file editable then type edit boot.ini under the heading [operating systems] you'll see something like default multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(3)\WINDOWS might be a little difficult to figure out where the mistake is, but multi 0 means the primary controller, disk (0) is always (0), rdisk is the physical disk number, and the partition is the partition number.(beginning at 1, not 0) Basically if windows is on the first partition of your only hard disk, it should be multi 0, disk0,rdisk0,part1 and if you installed on d, it'll mean the partition value is 2. (Unless thats a second disk, then the rdisk value is 1, and partition is also 1)

------------------ Also run a memtest to check your ram

#4

11-Jun-2007 10:47 AM
hkhksh

Hi thanks for the reply just to let you no that i know naff all about computers and im doing this for my son ( his computer ) so please be gentle

#5
11-Jun-2007 11:08 AM
hkhksh

just to let you know that when i start the computer up it goes stright to the screen saying safe mode , safe mode with networking , safe mode with coooand prompt , last know config, and start normally , but no matter what i choose it starts up for a few sceonds on then goes back to the same screen even when i press f8 and choose the things on there i just shuts down

#6
1 Hour Ago
clavinova

It might not help you but I have the same problem with a one year old Packard Bell PC. It does that round circle all the time and could not find any solution as I can't even reboot. Is your PC also a Packard BEll ?

#7
51 Minutes Ago

#8
50 Minutes Ago
devil_himself

If you have your windows xp install cd you can boot into the "recovery console" ".

If you had System Restore enabled there will be restore points you can use from a date when the pc last worked.

At the DOS prompt

cd c:\system volume information\_restor*\
dir /p
*This will bring you to the folder with the restore points.
*Doing the dir you can see the rpXXX folders and
* choose a folder with a date from the time the pc last worked.
cd rpXXX\snapshot
*In this folder there are 5 files you want.
*_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SAM (will be renamed as SAM in the config folder)
*_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SECURITY (will be renamed as SECURITY in the config folder)
*_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE (will be renamed as SOFTWARE in the config folder)
*_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SYSTEM (will be renamed as SYSTEM in the config folder)
*_REGISTRY_USER_.DEFAULT (will be renamed as Default in the config folder)

copy c:\windows\system32\config\* c:\config_backup\ /h /y
copy _REGISTRY_MACHINE_SAM c:\windows\system32\config\sam
copy _REGISTRY_MACHINE_SECURITY c:\windows\system32\config\security
copy _REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE c:\windows\system32\config\software
copy _REGISTRY_MACHINE_SYSTEM c:\windows\system32\config\system
copy _REGISTRY_USER_.DEFAULT c:\windows\system32\config\default

by the way, Clavinova = clarinette

Wow

ntbackup.msi is the file you need to download to get ntbackup installed. Download, run, and viola!

To the rest of the problem. That rather odd situation still puzzles me.Everything seems to point back to when your machine was remotely serviced. The simplest recovery will certainly be a system reload.

The more I read of this, the more I wish to be in direct control of the system and discover what is wrong.

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